European politicians want independence, but business leaders say it’s not possible | The Dip Podcast

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European politicians want independence, but business leaders say it's not possible | The Dip Podcast

European sovereignty has been a major motivator for politicians across the continent in recent years. But technology and business leaders are increasingly pointing to not only the impossibility of complete decoupling—but the impracticality. Siemens Digital Industries CEO Cedrik Neike joins The Dip’s Daniel Winter to discuss sovereignty, "digital twins," and how to prepare for "black swan" events.

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Date: January 27, 2026