‘It’s ripping MAGA apart’: David Pakman on Trump, Epstein and Dems future

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'It's ripping MAGA apart': David Pakman on Trump, Epstein and Dems future

Donald Trump is under pressure, again, this time over his alleged ties to the paedophile financier Jeffrey Epstein. As the scandal grows, the Speaker of the House has shut down Congress, seemingly to avoid any further questions being raised on the floor.

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Trump knew Epstein socially in the 1990s and early 2000s and Epstein’s longtime pilot, Lawrence Visoski, has testified that Trump flew on Epstein’s private plane multiple times. Trump has denied ever being on the plane and there is no evidence he was involved in wrongdoing.

But now, even Trump’s usual allies in the alt-right world of podcasts and influencers are turning on him. So what happens when the support base that’s shielded Trump for years starts to crumble?

On today’s episode of The Fourcast, David Pakman, host of The David Pakman Show and author of The Echo Machine, joins us to break it all down.

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Date: July 23, 2025