“They’ve pretty clearly cost the taxpayer”

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"They've pretty clearly cost the taxpayer"

Did Elon Musk’s DOGE (Department of Government Efficiency) ever actually save the US government any money?

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On this episode of #TrumpWorld, Michael Lewis tells Matt Frei that DOGE "failed spectacularly" as US government debt has spiralled under the Trump presidency.

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Date: October 20, 2026